Churchward’s Geological Observations in Siberia

This information is from an older posting at my Yahoo group, Kon-Tiki and Mu, but it is of especial interest to James Churchward readers and critics. James Churchward had  stated that the Uighir Empire once existed in Central Asia and was overwhelmed about 16000 BC by waves up from the south: he said that when he was in Siberia he saw debris left by the waves, and that the debris had been laid down in water but not by ice (Glaciers)

It just so happens that much of the information actually checks out, but not oficially because of the reasons Churchward stated. 16000 BC or 18000 years ago was about the time of the Glacial Maximum and large mountain glaciers lay in the South of Siberia. It just so happens the highlands of Siberia are mostly in the South and the land slopes mostly toward the Arctic ocean from there. So at the end of the Glacial Maximum, large quantities of meltwater came from out of the South of Siberia as the mountain glaciers meletd way: Graham Hancock’s book Underworld (2002) notes a sudden influx of glacial meltwater at about 16000 to 14000 years ago as the first of three “Global Superfloods”, each of the three being derived from the melting of the continental glaciers, in stages.

Churchward’s version says that there were no high mountains of Central Asia at the time and the waves washed full across the breadth of Asia. According to the Geologists, the mountains were already there and in fact that is where the floodwaters originated. Hoever, at least it can be said that Churchward turned out to be approximately correct as to the nature of the deposits in Siberia, the direction that the waves were coming from and the fact that there was no ice involved directly in it, and the approximate date of the deposit. Any one of these observations would be noteworthy on its own.

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An Alternate View on the Relationship Between Christian and Pagan Writings

Christianity and pre-Christian religions often appear to have many things in common. As a result, many today see these similarities and claim that Christianity borrowed, or stole, teachings from these earlier religions.
 

The facts, however, demonstrate that the opposite is more likely true.

Mithras, for example, had no ancient sacred writings. The earliest known example is a single liturgy from the fourth century AD, in the late Roman phase.

All else that we know about Mithras has come down through the Middle Ages via Catholic commentators, chronologists, and copyists.

Unfortunately, these Catholic writers had a predilection for altering other religious writings to conform to Christianity; and most of what we know about ancient religions is found in very late manuscripts after many times being copied and altered.

A clear example involves the religious histories by Egyptian (Manetho) and Babylonian (Berossos). We have no copies, or even fragments, of their writings. What we have has come down to us only as quotes by Jewish and Catholic chronologists (Josephus, Eusebius, Syncellus, etc.) in a form modified to support Bible chronology. For example, a manuscript of Syncellus modifies the Egyptian chronology to support the Greek Bible’s dates for the deluge and Fallen angels of Genesis.

To support the claims the chronologies are interpreted to place the founding of Egypt and Babylon within six months of each other; and during the life of the Biblical Enoch, supposedly when the angels fell. This is accomplished by “interpreting” Egyptian “years” and the Babylonian Saros as variable.

Another example involves the ancient Greek mystery religions. Aside from one small fragment, the oldest copies we have of the Homeric Hymn to Demeter date from the fourteenth century. Moreover, Clement of Alexandria is our key source for details about the cults of Eleusis, Aphrodite, Cybele, the Corybantic, and the Sabazian mystery cults. Again for Clement we have copies of copies of copies, etc.

Therefore, it is most likely that, over many centuries, these Christian scribes conformed other religions to Christianity. Therefore, what we now “know” about those religions has been extensively corrupted.

So while these ancient religions themselves did in fact predate Christianity, the documentary “evidence” cited for those religions is found in manuscripts which are much later than the Christian writings, and have been corrupted by conformity.

It is therefore very likely that Christianity did not adopt beliefs from these earlier religions. Rather the beliefs of these other religions were adapted to conform to the Christian Bible.

What we have today is most likely the result of centuries of changes, or corrections, by Catholic commentators, chronologists, and copyists.

We can also need to factor in common errors, such as parablipsis arising from homoeoarcton or homoeoteleuton.

These factors, therefore, need to be taken into account when researching ancient religions such as those related to Eleusis, Mithras, Magna Mater, Isis, Osiris Sarapis, etc.

So where does this leave us?

Unfortunately, it leaves us with the fact that the true nature of these pre-Christian religions have probably been completely corrupted and hopelessly lost.

J. Warren Wells – 2 April 2011

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Demeter as true mother

The concept is very simple and basic in the Greek.

The particle DE (Delta Eta) in Greek is an intensifier. Liddell & Scott (Middle Liddell) says it “gives greater exactness to the word” It gives the examples “in truth”, “In deed”, “surely” and “really” 

Therefore De intensifies Meter “Mother” and gives us “in truth  Mother”, “Surely Mother”, etc.

Regards, Joseph

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Mu and Demeter

The earliest attestation of Demeter is “Da-ma-te” in Linear-b (Google that for details).

 As for a “consensus” of scholar.” Virtually all translators of the Hymn to Demeter blatantly mistranslate the Greek “orgia” (orgies) as “Mysteries.” See for example line 476 in the Hymn to Demeter.

 

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The Ubiquitous MU

Note: Coptic was the spoken and written language in Egypt. It was in use from the first to about the sixth century A.D.

Mu meant “mother” in old egyptian (Mu = Mut = Maut, the great earth mother in early egypt).

Over time it mutated into mou, mau, and finally maau in Coptic (though some dialects still use mou).

Coptic (Hametic Language Group)

ma place
maau mother
me truth
meeue thought, belief
moou water
mouh burn, flash
mou death
moue island

Indeed a link between mu and the nearly universal worship of an “Earth Mother” can easily be traced in various language groups.

The mu sounds in various cultures (pronounced moo like a cow utterance), these all seem to be diachronically linked to a similar ancient root.

In late Egyptian (Coptic) moue (means both “island” and also “brightness”), moou (water or flood), mou (death), mouh (several meanings according to context: burning, glowing; fullfillment, completion; appearance), me (means love or truth or justice), ma (place or location), maau (mother) and a several other mou- based words.

Now then, if the pattern follows normal diachronic mutation (i.e. people are lazy and make words easier over time) then the common root may have been ma, mae or mau.

This is interesting because the indo-european languages all have “ma”, “me”, or “mo” as the root for mother:

Sanskrit matr
Old English modor
Latin mater
Old Irish mathair
Greek meter
Avestan matar
Russian matka

In the Greek, the verb root mu implied closed lips, silence, unspoken and is hence the basis of the word musterion (mystery) as in the Elesian mysteries, which involved worship of the great earth mother.

A weird sidepoint is that the ancient Chinese earth mother goddess was called “shing moo”in some places and “ma tsoop” eslewhere with
the moo and ma meaning mother.

Greek (Indo European Language Group)
mu, muo verb closing of the lips
mu silence or unspoken
muth myth, story
muse muse, music
musterion mystery

It is highly likely Demeter is De- Meter: The-True Mother.

Sumerian (Semitic Language Group)
ama mother
eme tongue, speech
ma boat, depart
mamu dream
marru flood
maruru flood storm
mer storm wind, violent storm
mi woman
mu woman
mu name
mumu always being reborn
munus woman
mul star, constellation
mur storm wind, violent storm
umu older woman, nurse, teacher

By J. Warren Wells. Please cite as source if you quote from this.

“J. Warren Wells is a well-known Greek and Coptic researcher.” Logos Software.

His books on Greek and Coptic can be found here:

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Rediscovery of the Naacal tablets: a bad joke

The recent rediscovery of the Naacal tablets really should have sounded like a bomb. After all, this is one crucial piece of evidence that has been eluding everyone, except James Churchward of course, for more than eighty years. One could even say that, with time, they had gained a privileged place in the pantheon of enigmatic and elusive artifacts everybody talks about but no one has ever seen.

This time however, things are different. Thanks to the tenacity of German independent researcher, author and travel agency manager Thomas Ritter, we can actually contemplate a couple of photographs which Mr. Ritter’s private and knowledgeable guide kindly allowed him to snap inside the “secret library” underneath Sri Ekambaranatha temple in Kanchipuram, India.

Needless to say, such underground hidden places of knowledge are not just open to anyone, especially not to Westerners. Mr. Ritter, who says he has been visiting India since 1993, however is a regular. Or at least that’s the impression we can get from reading his books and articles about the Indian palm-leaf libraries and the prophecies and predictions they are supposed to contain.

Up until July 2010 however, the “secret underground tunnels” of Sri Ekambaranatha temple had remained closed to him. According to the account he made of his discovery, it was mostly thanks to the “Navagraha ring” he wore, and possibly his personal experience and charisma, that Mr. Ritter finally attracted the attention of a seemingly influential elder, Pachayappa. The latter ultimately agreed to offer him the tour of the forbidden locations underneath the temple and allowed him to bring these few photos back with him.

"At chamber no. 4 the priest only allowed me to take pictures from 2 tablets, not from all this books there. The 2 tablets he showed me, are a little bit damaged. But you can see clearly the inscriptions." (credit: T. Ritter)

"The second tablet from chamber no. 4" (credit: T. Ritter)

Reading Mr. Ritter’s account of his visit of the subterranean tunnel system is not unlike watching an Indiana Jones movie. Torch-lit windy tunnels and vast decorated halls, rooms filled with tablets and books in strange unknown writings, spiders crawling in dark corners, all the ingredients of a classic adventure movie are there.

In comparison though, the movie seems more believable. Especially when Mr. Ritter presents us the photographs of the two Naacal tablets he claims to have examined in “chamber no. 4” of the “underground tunnel system”. This should have been the culminating point, the moment where all doubts about the reality of these tablets would have crumbled. In fine, it should have been the revenge of all independent researchers who have been struggling for over eighty years to prove their existence.

Unfortunately, it is not.

Whoever chose to recycle these pictures as “Naacal” tablets did a poor job. Any knowledgeable researcher in ancient Near-Eastern studies would not only recognize almost instantly the script on these pictures but the tablets themselves. Or, more precisely *the* tablet itself, as both pictures do not represent two distinct tablets but are in fact two close-ups of a single tablet, and a well-known one at that.

Byblos bronze tablet. (credit: H. Sauren)

The tablet in question belongs to a series of inscribed artifacts unearthed by French archaeologist Maurice Dunand in the late 1920s and early 1930s in Byblos, Lebanon. The inscriptions on these items have remained undeciphered until now, mainly because of the small size of the available corpus which comprises only ten individual texts. The script however is well identified and has been categorized as a pseudo-hieroglyphic script named Proto-Byblian, which was in use in Byblos during the first half of the 2nd millennium B.C. The two-sided bronze tablet which Mr. Ritter presents us as a “naacal” tablet is held by the Beirut museum (cat. 16598) and has been studied by many scholars in their attempts to decipher the Proto-Byblian script.

A comparison between Mr. Ritter’s photos and the Byblos bronze tablet shows without any possible doubts that they are one and the same.

Byblos bronze tablet. Colored zones correspond to the two pictures provided by Mr. Ritter. (Source: DHORME, E. "Déchiffrement des inscriptions pseudo-hiéroglyphiques de Byblos", Syria, tome 25, fasc. 1, 1946, p.13)

This not only casts more than serious doubts on the credibility of the “rediscovery” of the “naacal” tablets, but also to the story of Mr. Ritter’s visit to Sri Ekambaranatha as a whole. One would now need to explain how a bronze tablet found in Byblos and on display in Beirut could be at the same time in some supposed underground library under an Indian temple. It’s not even a copy of the Byblos tablet we are talking about, this is the same tablet as the one found by Maurice Dunand in the 1930s.

In light of this information, one can only conclude to the fraudulent nature of the rediscovery. If this is a joke, this is a bad one and poorly executed at that.

The problem with such misinformation is that it tends to make legitimate and serious research on James Churchward’s Mu theory more focused on debunking absurdities such as this one and ultimately appear less credible. Let’s not fall for this silly trap and move on to real questions.

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Scientists’ amazing California discovery includes fishing tackle 12,000 years old

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/24870/scientists+amazing+california+discovery+includes+fishing+tackle+12000+years+old/

Friday, March 4, 2011 8:35pm PST

By: Pete Thomas, GrindTV.com

People are discovering antique fishing tackle all the time, in closets and at garage sales, but none of that compares to discoveries made recently by archaeologists at two of the Channel Islands off Southern California.

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Looking for signs of ancient human settlement, they unearthed meticulously-crafted spearheads and other tools (see photo at right) that date back 12,000 years and provide insight into the lives of a seafaring culture that obtained bounty from the ocean.

The astonishing discoveries, at three sites on Santa Rosa and San Miguel islands west of Santa Barbara, strongly support the theory that during an era when the first traces of humans appeared in the archaeological record in North America, a coastal culture existed that was distinct from the well-chronicled inland Clovis culture, which consisted of big-game hunters who subsisted on mastodons and other large mammals.

A 15-member team led by Jon Erlandson of the University of Oregon’s Museum of Natural and Cultural History found chipped stone tools, used for fishing and hunting, along with an abundance of discarded seashells and bones.

A story about the finds appears in the March 4 issue of Science; it was summarized by New Scientist and Science Daily. New Scientist’s headline: “Found: fine American fishing tackle, 12 millennia old.”

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In the Science Daily piece, Erlandson said, “This is among the earliest evidence of seafaring and maritime adaptations in the Americas, and another extension of the diversity of Paleoindian economies. The points we are finding are extraordinary, the workmanship amazing. They are ultra thin, serrated and have incredible barbs on them. It’s a very sophisticated chipped-stone technology.”

The sites are thought to have represented seasonal hunting grounds. Prey items probably included surf perch and rockfish, geese, cormorants and other birds, shellfish and perhaps seals, sea lions and otters. The crescent-shaped stones probably were used at the ends of darts to stun birds. Fish and larger marine mammals were speared.

Team member Todd Braje, of Humboldt State University, is quoted by New Scientist as saying, “We found very thin, expertly made projectile points and it blew us away that these delicate flint-knapped points are this old.”

Most of the tools were different from those unearthed at inland Clovis sites on the North American mainland, but some of the spearheads were similar, perhaps implying that trade existed between the cultures.

rightThe newly discovered sites might help scientists learn more about how North America became populated. It’s widely believed that people arrived via a land bridge connecting Siberia and Alaska, but some scientists believe seafaring migration occurred.

Erlandson explained that his team’s find supports the notion that mariners were either first to inhabit North America, or that they arrived at about the same time as those via the land route.

While the recent finds are not the oldest in North America, Braje explained in the New Scientist story that “this pushes back the chronology of New World seafaring to 12,000, maybe 13,000 years ago. It gets us a big step closer to showing that a coastal migration route happened, or was at least possible.”

Top image is of the ancient fishing tackle discovered recently by scientists at Santa Rosa and San Miguel islands off Southern California. Courtesy of Jon Erlandson. Second image, of Santa Miguel Island, and Channel Islands map graphic are from Wikipedia

–It really does seem that there were people sailing all around the rim of the Pacific before the Clovis peoples settled along a more Easterly route. Apparently they had settlements from Indonesia to Chile all along the way, and that there must also have been regular two-way traffic across the Pacific at least as early as 11000 to 12000 BC.

It also seems that Pottery has been definitely established as an invention in Lemuria or Sundaland, at least as early as 15000 BC and only subsequently travelling Northward to Japan and far-Eastern Siberia, and then again to Africa by way of Ethiopia, on to the southern Sahara by 10000 BC once again.

Best Wishes, Dale D.

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Kicking off the My-Mu.com Guest Blog

This is the My-Mu.com Guest Blog for postings from guest researchers into James Churchward and his theories of a lost Pacific Ocean continent.
If you wish to present, explain, or summarize your research in this blog, please contact Jack Churchward for information on how to register and to start entering your submissions.

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